it is this claim in this reporting that romney was in the room along with john mccain when they were getting the reporting. this is p as bad as we can imagine it being. it was connifusing and complicated. he, like everyone else, found it confusing and tough. more than anything, part of what i am yearning for from the republicans, katon, is the sense of complexity. it is hard work. there is not one single policy that impacts such a complex economy. >> there is not one single party that is going to get it done. >> i think you just framed the election for me and a lot of other people. how big do we want our government to be? you talk about increasing jobs. how big of a government can we afford. >> if it is teachers, i would like it to be very big. >> i have my sister back home that would like that also. my point is, this is the choice america is making. how big of a government, not do we want but can which afford? that gets to a liberty versus conservative argument. policies and all this other stuff gets stuff in the weeds. do we want more government jobs? that becomes a real thing. >>